@tobias You'd think, but masto wants to tell me what to do

@silverwizard @tobias Who does?

@hypolite @tobias Someone bugged me about a locked accounts

And yeah, it's only bothering me because I had a bad day, but Mastodon is just a mess with so many placebos enforced by nothing but weird code that doesn't federate

BTW: Friendica accounts normally appear like locked accounts on Mastodon. They display the lock symbol on an account whenever a a contact request has to be accepted manually.

@heluecht did my follow request go through from here?
@pamela @hypolite @tobias @silverwizard

@succfemboi It did.

@heluecht Oh, it's just the UI that didn't update
@hypolite @pamela @silverwizard @tobias

@heluecht That is what the lock is supposed to mean...

@succfemboi @heluecht @hypolite @pamela @silverwizard @tobias That's probably a Pleroma problem tbh

@mewmew Or that tab was in the background since yesterday but it now shows the change
@heluecht @hypolite @pamela @silverwizard @tobias

The problem with Mastodon is that even if I end up filtering all Mastodon hosts out of my federation, their posts can still get through and people will police their badly implemented community guidelines at me and it will still make the federation worse to use

@silverwizard You shouldn't have to... our shit should get fixed. a lot of us run modified masto anyway... there's got to be ways to patch to be better neighbors, I don't know what yet. flan_think​ But the people still using masto under duress are creative.

Hell, we couldn't even have local-only posts so now there's a magical emoji on the glitch-soc fork. All our local posts have 👁️ at the end. That's how it works. Magic emoji.

@pamela I mean, it's because Gargon loves placebo code, where he puts in a thing that pretends to work, but only because you are using Mastodon, but it fails if you are using any other AP implementation

@silverwizard (and more problems arise because a lot of us run the shit and simply don't know ... it's pretty common knowledge that our topic fields are bullshit and not everyone grabs our emoji and that it's really only pleroma we can play well with, but I had no idea our privacy settings weren't being communicated properly. That's... uh, that's foundational sysadmin stuff. Every mastoadmin should want that fixed).

@pamela @silverwizard #Friendica grabs post body emojis because they're shipped with each post, but not in the display names because emojis aren't shipped with contact information and would require extra work on our end. 🙃

@silverwizard @hypolite @tobias @pamela
That's what @kaniini warned about for a long time already.

Btw does friendica announce blocks from each account?

@hypolite @silverwizard oh cool, yay! We're used to a little brokenness on that front, anyway, as well as when they're used in topics/CWs, but it's good to hear it works at least partially without much hassle. :D

@pamela @silverwizard We used to have a plugin that stored all the custom emojis for each remote Mastodon account but it got rendered obsolete when the emojis started being shipped with posts, but apparently it needs to come back for display names and possibly CW titles.

@succfemboi @kaniini @hypolite @tobias we don't announce blocks.

@heluecht one Mastodon maintainer has called for blocking instance software which doesn't respect blocks as masto does it
@silverwizard @pamela @mewmew @kaniini @hypolite @tobias

@silverwizard Wait what is happening?

@hypolite Someone yelled at me for boosting a locked post

Where locked means "has a locked symbol if you viewed it on its original instance", but it's not the first time that Mastodon has invented a process that only works if you are using mastodon

I guess it was a public post that wasn't listed. This is a specialty that Mastodon invented. These posts are marked as public posts, they behave like public posts and are visible like public posts - but they aren't displayed on the public timeline.

@silverwizard Was it actually private? Friendica prevents sharing posts that are marked as private.

@hypolite No, it was not

@silverwizard Then ignore yell, next.

@silverwizard I mean, they couldn't know it wasn't actually private, and you couldn't know it wasn't actually public, so it was a blind man yelling at a deaf man.

but they aren’t dis­played on the pub­lic timeline...
of a Mostodon node. Right?

@silverwizard I don't like mastodon, pleroma is so much more better

@succfemboi @heluecht @hypolite @kaniini @pamela @silverwizard @tobias he's not a masto maintainer, just an idiot

(you saw how he blocked my instance, right?)

@succfemboi @heluecht @hypolite @kaniini @pamela @silverwizard @tobias yeah, he's contributed a bit but isn't part of the project

he blocked for being a white national terrorist organization, like wtf

@succfemboi @heluecht @hypolite @kaniini @pamela @silverwizard @tobias the main people I remember talking about it was him, kitsunealicia, and anna.

@succfemboi @mewmew @heluecht @hypolite @kaniini @pamela @silverwizard @tobias

Considering that Ben didn't understand at all how youtube-dl detects PeerTube instances, I'm amazed he managed to make one working pull request, not to mention more than 4.

@Feuerfuchs @succfemboi @heluecht @kaniini @mewmew @pamela @silverwizard @tobias Can you please pull me out of this conversation?

@hypolite sorry, will untag blobcatpat

@succfemboi @silverwizard @hypolite @pamela @tobias

in fairness 3.0 adds "stealth" blocks as an option. the things Mastodon wants to do with blocks can be done but the way to do them securely requires an actual security model that has thought put into it.