this requires setting up API endpoints and/or picking a config format and possibly adding events to react to changes. a handful of things that if they do not already have, would take more time than just stuffing the list in an array and calling it done for now.
However, I think there was a previous attempt at a Fediverse reddit alternative called Prismo a while ago?
It's not active any more but IIRC the Mastodon interaction was being able to follow users, reply to topics and upvote posts. From the Mastodon end it looked like any other topic thread, likes were interpreted as upvotes.
The main benefit would be a huge userbase increase, Mastodon already has millions of registered users.
@icedquinn@LemmyDev@FediFollows@realcaseyrollins that PR would be refused. #Lemmy devs have said that they deliberately hard coded the slur filter so that every Lemmy intance has the same hard-coded words. The problem is that some of those words are substrings of normal dictionary words, so legit noncontroversial posts get harsh treatment. It's clumsy b/c you can't even quote or mock someone who uses a slur.
@geewillickers thats just not practical for us as official installation method, because lemmy consists of 5 different services (db, backend, frontend, image hosting, link previews). but it could be an option for some people. we have an open issue regarding docs for manual installation, so you are welcome to write the documentation.
I don't get it - why is it not practical? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like everyone involved in making the docker image are kind of refusing (maybe not the best wording of it) to document how the docker image is built, and how the components interact with each other (the basics on getting services to work together), but you're obviously working with the knowledge of what one needs to run them outside of a docker image. So why not provide those details, even in a mostly generic fashion? "Install X, Y, Z, G, and L, grab the configs from our git repository in folder X and massage to your needs"?
@geewillickers@FediFollows You're free to come up with a way to build / install every service lemmy depends on, and document them as you go along, but we personally don't have time to do that. Its been an open issue for a long time and no one has attempted it.
@geewillickers to add, the documentation for installing lemmy is precisely inside the dockerfile, written in bash. the relation between services is described in the docker-compose.yml. it shouldnt be very hard to translate it into a guide (but we have too many things to do already).
@LemmyDev@joli That wasn't my post, it was a reply to me. Apparently @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo's posted that to #Lemmy.ml. But I reviewed it & see no spam or scam. "The True Value Discover Card program ended on 3/6/2020. Because of this, we are no longer accepting new applications." <- is that what you're calling "spam/scam"?
I'm asking if anyone knows of a 3rd-party credit card that works on the #Discovercard network, now that True Value has discontinued their card.
#Lemmy.ml ownership censored my question (in my own community that I moderate)-- apparently their anti-capitalism beliefs won't allow credit card discussion even when the ultimate goal is to find a card that's less socially irresponsible than the typical options.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo@joli@LemmyDev perhaps English isn't their 1st language. I can see how someone not fluent in English might think the post is spam. OTOH, there is a box that starts with "When painting, planting or plumbing, every DYI-er can use a helping hand. Apply for..." - where does that come from?
Also if you look at what the modlog still shows, where someone commented about the risk of email providers going out of business, that's also an abuse of power that came from the ownership, not the moderator.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo@LemmyDev@joli@loweel i think loweel is trying to say that the hidden raw HTML (which you didn't write) is "native advertising". At best it's a s/w bug, but as you said, that wasn't there at the time the post was censored.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo@loweel@joli@LemmyDev#Lemmy.ml is so trigger happy with the censor button that no doubt users in the future will get stung by the #Lemmy mechanism that reads the HTML description of a page. They're not clever enough to give the user the ability to edit that text.
@joli are you FediFollows? The thread became rational for avoiding the lemmy.ml instance, but there could be a decent #Lemmy instance by now. I still have to try https://lemmy.glasgow.social to see if there is a censorship problem there.
The problem with #Lemmy software (which all nodes would have) is that users can't control the summary of shared links & that the modlogs can be manipulated.
@LemmyDev@bojkotiMalbona@joli The modlog for c/email showed the censorship of a discussion on the cock.li status, then it was spotlighted an example of excessive #censorship, and now it's not there. But the original post is not there either. Moderators do not have the power to suppress modlogs. It can only be done by someone in control of the instance.
@loweel it really depends if maintainers of other projects help us or not. we have plenty of work with lemmy, so we wont investigate federation with different software anytime soon. but if devs of another project helped us to fix incompatible things, that could speed up things a lot. which project do you want to federate with?
@loweel@FediFollows@nx We both use activitypub, but the entire fediverse currently is based on the twitter model of following users. Lemmy is based on the reddit model of following communities. The bridge between the two can only be made when we add user-following (which we will do much later), or the rest of the fediverse adds community following.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo@FediFollows@LemmyDev@icedquinn I’ve hopped back on, and it looks like the project has greatly improved. The users claim that the word ban antifeature can be easily altered or removed. I suggested the possibility of making those alterations possible in the UI/frontend, but was unsurprisingly met with a chilling response.
Also, it seems like derpy.email, the instance that #Lenny was created for, is no longer operational, and has closed registrations as well. We could absolutely be served by a flagship #Lenny instance, if anyone feels like hosting one…
@realcaseyrollins@LemmyDev@FediFollows@icedquinn the slur filter was originally implemented so recklessly that if a substring matched the regex, the UI would hard & fast refuse to accept the whole composition with no specific error, and so users were forced to throw away a potentially long (labor intensive) msg in a way that was blind to the mods & ownership, so the problem wasn't even trackable.
@icedquinn@FediFollows@LemmyDev@realcaseyrollins Lemmy evolved from that but this is not just a coding botch.. it reflects reckless disregard for colatteral damage to legitimate users who have no malicious or nefarious intent or effect. #Lemmy devs & lemmy.ml are tyrants in both their design and especially in their management style. Indeed we need to avoid tyranny, thus different devs, which hopefully #Lenny will satisfy.
@icedquinn@FediFollows@LemmyDev@realcaseyrollins The authoritarian attitude of #Lemmy devs is hard-wired into the design such that the whole project should be scrapped. E.g.it would never occur to Lemmy devs that a censored post, whether it breaks rules or not, should be quarantined & preserved in a way that it can be ported to another instance where the rules and standards are more accommodating. Design decisions would resist it
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @firstname.lastname@example.org @FediFollows@LemmyDev @email@example.com We have a public modlog that is used by default. If your problem is that post CAN be removed from the server at all, then you'll be sorely disappointed with basically every fediverse site.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @firstname.lastname@example.org @FediFollows@LemmyDev @email@example.com If your definition of tyranny is being able to use slurs, then I don't know what to tell you, but sure, we're tyrants under that definition.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @firstname.lastname@example.org @FediFollows@LemmyDev @email@example.com If your definition of tyranny is not being able to insult marginalized groups with slurs, then I don't know what to tell you, but sure, we're tyrants under that definition.